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I'm actually pretty pissed that had to make this in the first place. 

A lot of you probably know about the issue with :iconsonicsf:, if you don't go here first: thevaleev.deviantart.com/journ….     I said before that sonicsf's issues is double egde sword, and heres why.

(SRY FOR SIDE)-Some random @$$#%^& ripped sprites from his game SonicvsLF2, and his partner/friend who was making the sprites for the game got pissed at him, and left the project, because he thought that sonicsf leaked his work out in the public on purpose.   www.soniclf2.cc.cc/   In truth, I feel bad for the most part because of this incident, and his lack of understanding English ( he's from Taiwan (china)).   Heck I'll admit that the guys that ripped his game, and the people who won't listen him and delete the sprites that they got from his game, or own up to there mistakes are even bigger selfish @$$#*&^'s that worship BILL HAWKS  (from the game professor laten and the unwound future:    www.deviantart.com/art/Bill-Ha….    It's unfair for him, and its wrong, No loop hole, turn around's, short cuts, or excuses.  There being a Bill Hawks.

(TICKED OFF SIDE)-However here's the other edge of the sword that's driving me crazy.  Due to the incident, he's been going around dubbing people as sprite thieves, if they don't listen to him and take it out or without negotiating at first (this part eventually stopped though).  Some part of this I understand, but heres what bugs me the most;  Some people got his by accident, before this happen (and his work is global) and some people put some alot  work into there fan character or flash animation (and we all know hard that type of work is), and its hard work.  Another thing that bugs me more is that he'll look at any other sprite edit's that's shaped like his sprites, right or wrong, and post a video about saying you stole his work from sonicvssf2. Want proof:  www.youtube.com/playlist?list=… .   and here too www.deviantart.com/journal/Spr…

  Yeah, so what if we want to make sprites that looks like the one's from smash bros, but we can't because he made them already, and then he starts getting on your case about it, which turns his fans on and start gaining up on you like angry a mob.   I can understand that making a fan character over his sprites won't change the problem, let alone make it worse, but it's still unfair that we have to give hard work when you find this out at the last minute.   It's also unfair, wrong, and disrespectful for making false accuse-ions.


So now heres where this swf comes in. 

 Like most people, I got a hold of :iconsonicsf:'s sprites, used it in my first sprite animation I was gonna show off, and then I found out about the issues with sonicsf.   I'm all from 1 to respect his issue a all, but I already put the sprite move and it looks good in the video, but if I can't have it in the video then I need a replacement, that's just like it.  Since there is no other smash upper kick on the net, I had no choice but to make them myself, which pissed me off because this wasted some time for me.


Now let me give this to you strait, THERE IS NOTING SIMILAR COMPARED TO :iconsonicsf:'s WORK AND THIS.    First off look at this link and compare the diffrence:  s30.postimg.org/oxkw2xpfh/uppe…

Here's the difference's:

1.) (Through sonics eyes) His double kicks to the right.  Mine dose the exact opposite.

2.) His work starts off on the ground, then lands on the ground.  Mine is in the air mostly.


Theirs no way to prove that these are :iconsonicsf:'s.
 
The sprites in this SWF are 35% made from scratch.  Also I got some of the sprite parts from this sprite sheet:  xfiremhdev.deviantart.com/art/…       and from this set to:   xfiremhdev.deviantart.com/art/… .   I worked hard on these to make them different from the originals, heck I had to mess up a sprite to make sure It wasn't a exact copy of his, to make sure he doesn't get on my case about it.   None of his sprites are in those sheets.

So are we clear?    I won't release these sprite's on a gif.file/sheet until I get the proof that these were not stolen, but if sonicsf is too oblivious to tell the difference and says it's stolen (WHEN ITS NOT), then You'll all have to wait until my test animation is done first, then I'll release them.

YEAH, I'm pretty angry at this moment.   This whole situation is twisting my head to point of me raising my blood pressure. I understand it, but can't stand it at the same time.  If I end up on his thief list, then there going to be trouble.


So yeah I'm done with this.  I wrote it in clear English.  Can't read English, then here's a translator:  www.google.com/#q=culture+tran…



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:iconkal-the-fox:
kal-the-fox Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2014
You have no reson to feel sorry for sonicfan because he and his fans claim that ripping animations is theft yet his sprits are ripps of the brawl animation. he also clams the animations as his which they arnt they were made by his friend and if his friend mad at him let him be you lose friends in life its not uncommon
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:icontheredthunder360:
TheRedThunder360 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Well I don't thin it matters now because :iconsonicsf: quit
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:icontheredthunder360:
TheRedThunder360 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm really getting annoyed about :iconsonicsf: throwing a b*tchfit whining like a little *sshole about people"stealing" his sprites
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah but s really pissing me off the most is that he's not replying to my following question.

"Are we aloud to remake his sprites from scratch"?

That's bull$#@! if he says no.
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:icontheredthunder360:
TheRedThunder360 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
It shouldn't really matter because HE DOESN'T OWN THE F*CKING CHARACTER!!!
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Well it dosen't matter much any more, because I just heard he quit.
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:icontheredthunder360:
TheRedThunder360 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah I saw he removed all the videos that were Sonic vs LF2 related(I still have the game)
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:iconacetrainer-ace:
AceTrainer-Ace Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014
Lol glad to know that I wasn't the only one suffering this issue, the guy seems to be somewhat a hypocrite and he tends to make quite a lot of false accusation. What pissed me off the most was his his messed up fans who had nothing to do with his work. But it's totally true, he even put me in his thing although I was naive at that moment.
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Whats more enraging is, what if we want to make Brawl sprites from scratch thats close to match his sprites?

With he get confuses from those sprites to his and throw a hissy fit?

I get his problem, but Hate this on both accounts. >:/
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:iconacetrainer-ace:
AceTrainer-Ace Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014
Ikr D:, he acts as if he created SSBB Sonic's movesets in the first place. He also acts as if he made original sprites as well, when in actual fact they're not his and their just conversions
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Now I almost feel like my conscience was half played, and even more pissed. ):/
The best sprites, made like the ones from brawl, ends up in the hands of a grown man, acting like a jr higher.


But, however, theirs another-side to this story.
From what I heard, he had a friend who was making the sprites for the game, but when sprite got leaked he got mad at him about it, so sonicSF panicked and started what he was doing now(fighting a loosing battle).

But still it doesn't mean I have to like his #@$ attitude and methods, and the people who obliviously support him half blindsided.
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:iconacetrainer-ace:
AceTrainer-Ace Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014
You are a genius my friend! I feel the same way!
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Well I'm not a complete genius yet.  But I have learned from the best.  However I'm might've figured a way to fix half of this.  

Btw I should also warn you to not fave this guy :iconiyimfrozenfan01: . He the biggest jerk of all, and he blocked me last night for speaking the truth to him.    


He's like this guy:
  www.deviantart.com/art/Bill-Ha….


Also he might be the main source of having :iconsonicsf: crawling up your butt.

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:iconacetrainer-ace:
AceTrainer-Ace Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014
Yeah, I heard all about it, don't worry bro, I'm safe for now. But the dude still won't delete his video :c
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Then he's ignorant.   It's probably best not to give him any sign of attention.

I'm trying best not to as well, but you know.

I have a semi revenge plan for :iconiyimfrozenfan01:.
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:iconyagoshi:
Yagoshi Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
These R The 2 Main Robin-Hoods who've started This Controversy:

superdarkshadic and IyimFrozenFan01
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Edited Aug 12, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
I sort've Know already.

BUT, what I'm really ticked off about is we have no free will to recreate sprites from brawl.  :iconsonicsf: beat use to those sprites.  

What if I want to MAKE SPRITES FROM SCRATCH, but it some how matches his? Will he and his fans get stupidly confused and get on my case about it? Dubbing me as a hater target?

Also another thing thats ticking me off, is because he's wasting his time.  His sprites are out there now, and they'll just keep getting the hands of more and more people and so on and so forth.     THIS SITUATION IS NEVER GOING TO END.    HE AND HIS HOT HEADED FANS ARE FIGHTING A LOOSING BATTLE.  

To tell the truth, I hate both sides of this situations.  I hate the rippers who got into his business, and I hate his methods and his attitude.

I actually get his situation for the half of it, but SonicSF and his friend needs to face the facts and let this go.  Otherwise he'll just he'll just have to suffer in his(they're) pride.   His attitude and methods STINKS.

If you ask me, he's better of posting his sprites on his DEV. page, showing the world he alone made those.

THINK ABOUT IT.
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:iconzeh-mastahhd:
Zeh-MastahHD Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Woah,Nice job!
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:iconkingasylus91:
KingAsylus91 Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Nice animation, dude.
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Thanks.  Hey, hows that movie of yours coming along?  Godzilla vs  Bowser? I saw l the last preview on YouTube, and so far the atmosphere in it was enough to excite my nerves (or in another case, loose my $#^%).  I think it has potential, but I think some parts need improvement.
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:iconkingasylus91:
KingAsylus91 Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
Working on it, but still waiting for Giga Bowser sprites.
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Who's making the Giga Bowser Sprites?
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:iconsonic4ever760:
sonic4ever760 Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014  Student Artist
I know! Right? :D
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:icontoad900:
Toad900 Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014  Student General Artist
Hmm... Interesting... .3.
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:iconrubensesteves:
rubensesteves Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014
Well said. I think you're NOT going to thief list.
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Hope not.  Other wise.........
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:iconrubensesteves:
rubensesteves Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014
The poses are a lot different from sonicvslf2 one, so i think you're safe from DA LIST :V
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah I suppose.  Of course If you read it, I had to mess up one of the sprites on purpose, because It was starting to look like one of his in his second kick foot sprite. 

I'm not going to release these until :iconsonicsf: tells it strait in my face first.    Because his motives is driving me crazy.
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:iconrubensesteves:
rubensesteves Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2014
Oh i see
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:iconsonic4ever760:
sonic4ever760 Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2014  Student Artist
Not bad
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:iconxfiremhdev:
XFireMHDev Featured By Owner Edited Jul 22, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
I really didn't want to burst like that, but this is just driving me crazy.    It's really not fare for the both of us.   It's no fare for sonicsf because people ripped his sprites and now its global, and it's not fare for the people ether.   I don't care what he says or they say, they NEED to clean there #@!$%^ act.
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